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Post by bossman on May 2, 2022 9:36:32 GMT
Based on the vote we had, we will go with the keeping of five players of your choice on your roster. The player prices will be reassessed according to base prices of the players rating. I will not be asking you to settle on five players until the end of this season and the player re-rating process.
Three things have come up while will require attention/discussion/voting on.
1) Brisbane
After discussion, there is a common agreement that Brisbane is the only team that does not really have five elite players on their roster. We will look at Darwin and decide on who their 6th and 7th best player is and ship them off to Brisbane immediately.
First of all, we need to vote on who their top five is. From there, their next two players may appear to be obvious...may not. These are the guys I feel would come into consideration for the elite 5.
Tommy T, Garrick (form and gk), Bradman Best (more potential than form based), Luke Keary, Jahrome Hughes, Nicho Hynes, David Fafita, John Bateman, Matt Dufty, Isiah Papalii, Josh Papalli, Api Korisau, Paul Vaughen, Nathan Cleary, Tyrell Sloan (great junior but in reserves)
Pick your top five by 8th May 2022. We'll go from there with the result.
2) RSC
A train of thought is around as to whether RSC squads should be kept as they are. We'll make a vote of it.
Question? What should happen with RSC squads for next season?
A) Keep them as they are this season.
B) Get rid of all and keep between 5-10 players.
C) Clear RSC squads altogether and re-draft them.
Choose an option by 8th May 2022.
3) PLAYER RATING
Im going to kick off player ratings this week for ESL players. ANYBODY is free to put in their two cents worth. Two more weeks (ASRL Finals time), we will kick off NRL player ratings. I strongly encourage all coaches to have their say on where a player should be.
4) SQUAD CAP
One thing I forgot to put in my original post....squad caps. I think it is absolutely necessary to have a squad cap in for future competitions. A BIG reason why our competition has a lop sided nature to it at the moment is a lack of competition in bidding which has led present coaches being able to stockpile talent for prices that are way too cheap. Angus Chriction for 200k? Cmon!
Do you want a squad cap of 30 for next season?
(a) Yes
(b) No
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Post by Mackdadday on May 2, 2022 10:03:09 GMT
I think with Darwin, why not just give Brisbane Hynes (they already have Cleary, Hughes, both elite, as well as keary). He is a goal kicking half so will be very valuable to them and surplus to requirements at Darwin.
I also think it shouldn't be mandatory to keep 5 players. So if Brisbane has a new coach they could opt to keep three or four and then get to fill those spots with anyone they want from the draft pool.
In regard to RSC, I think we keep the RSC players that don't get drafted or bidded on. Maybe we could do a second draft of RSC players after bidding or at least three days where coaches can pick up one player, then after that two a day?
I think 30 is slightly stingy on numbers. It doesn't really leave much space for gambling on a junior which is a fun part of the game. Maybe 35?
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Post by bossman on May 2, 2022 11:02:25 GMT
Brisbane
Cleary, Tommy T, Hynes, Hughes and Fafita would make my top 5 for Darwin. The only surplus bloke in that five for me would be Hynes....but if it was me, Hughes would be too good to let go. He'd also make great tradebait if a coach would want to go that direction.
RSC
Im voting C for the pure purpose of evening the comp as much as possible.
SQUAD CAP
Im passionately voting yes. The squad number could be discussed and voted on but I still think 30 is the way to go. There is a massive number of players in RSC squads that never get a game. It will force people to either recruit high potential but very low statted or higher statted put prob won't turn out to be that star. Byron has 18 players that have not played a game ALL SEASON. Kensington has 16. Two virtual teams worth of players that have not had a game. If that is not stockpiling, I don't know what is.
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Post by Mackdadday on May 2, 2022 11:07:54 GMT
Brisbane RSC Im voting C for the pure purpose of evening the comp as much as possible. I think players in RSC that haven't been drafted or bid on probably aren't going to be the top line young talent and a RSC draft would be quite lengthy. However, Not demonizing the possibility. |
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Post by padds on May 2, 2022 19:14:22 GMT
I think RSC should be left untouched, possibly the number increased to 35. I'm happy with keeping 5 players in th FG and having a draft.
I have spent a lot of time picking potential stars and would not be happy with having to give them up. If the RSC is changed I will be seriously thinking again about carrying on
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Post by bossman on May 4, 2022 14:10:19 GMT
From the posts and sentiments I have been reading, I am a little bit disturbed about a selfish sentiment that is in our game at the moment.
From my perspective, this season is the only season I have really not enjoyed running. It is not because of the truly great blokes that are in our game at the moment. It is the fact that we only have five coaches left in our game that is the huge issue.
We need to make our game as inviting as possible for any new person that wants to have a crack at our game. The best possible chance we have is to do our absolute best to ensure that every person who joins our game has an even crack at success. Without participation, we are …...fucked.
I think all of us agree that the present make up of our competition is extremely lopsided. The table and rosters are pretty solid evidence of this. Yes, we have spent a significant amount of time putting our rosters together. But, due to varying factors, our comp is broken.
While we have taken SOME steps towards the right direction, I feel the car is heading for that cliff with no signs of slowing down. I fear people are way too concerned about holding onto what they have built. To attract a new group of coaches, yet have next to no big ticket stars for them to choose is already heading down an uneven more narrow path than things have to be.
I'll be brutally honest....the keeping of five players is absolute crap. The smart players in this comp (which is all of us still here) realise that deep down, that is not a truly even spread of talent.
Glasgow: 1.Haas 2.Moses 3.Yeo 4.Welch 5.Olakau'atu V Adelaide 1.Papenhuyzen 2. Manu 3. Schuster 4.Mahoney 5.Tino …....I'll give you the tip, I know which group most of you would take. Keeping that Glasgow five would create an enormous bill and put them on the backfoot straight away.
Keeping the RSC players idea is even more greedy. We know how valuable an RSC is. If we keep our RSC as is (or my fuck, even extend it to 35 players to keep), any new coach does not have a hope in fucking hell of building any sort of junior pool for some time.
In saying all this, it is OUR comp and I'll follow through and accept any decision made by the majority.
Im going to finish my post with this thought. What would you want if you were a new coach coming into this comp?
With me in the chair, we have one more genuine crack at this. If we don't get new blood, I will leave at the end of next season.
We have time guys. Lets think through things without greed and do what we can.
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Post by bossman on May 5, 2022 7:30:09 GMT
Know what? I've had a fucking change of heart.
I vote for keeping every fucking RSC player in our squads. Heck, I'll even go with Padds idea and vote for a 35 man squad.
I vote for no fucking squad cap....lets get greedy and build our squads to 40!
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Post by Mackdadday on May 5, 2022 10:33:46 GMT
I thik we can find a path that soothes one and all. Personally, I am happy to keep 5 from my squad and offer the rest of my babies to the masses. As for RSC, I am good either way. If there is no rsc in the draft then that means we are still offering incoming potential coaches around 35 players per club making a tidy pool of about 350 players with plenty of tens and heaps of 9s in there.
RSC would make that 700 players of course.
I think we should go the big facebook chatgroup with ex coaches when ratings are done and see what exactly would get them back. We have already teams are keeping five players. Two coaches now have voted to keep RSCs in tact.
There is hope, lads!
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Post by crusadematt on Jun 8, 2022 0:05:39 GMT
For the contracts at the end of the season, are we using new wage amounts calculated by player ratings plus length of contract for our 5 players or are we using the wages that they are currently paid at the moment?
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Post by Mackdadday on Jun 8, 2022 2:47:02 GMT
For the contracts at the end of the season, are we using new wage amounts calculated by player ratings plus length of contract for our 5 players or are we using the wages that they are currently paid at the moment? You use the base salary of the player and you can give up to five seasons but whatever you give the salary will just be their base salary. |
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Post by tattguy35 on Aug 9, 2022 7:23:40 GMT
What the go with years of contracts now? are we only choosing 5 players each off season then doing a draft?
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Post by cookmysock on Aug 9, 2022 7:51:43 GMT
I assumed we will go back to how it always has been from this point. Set your contract lengths with your new draft players & bidding wins, & sort your squads from there. The intenmtion of what we are doing is to just do a "reset" as teams like Mack & Roger just go so strong over time & built unbeatable juggernauts (excepyt me& others kept beating them against all odds), it became less attaractive for new coaches to become involved. A new start now means teams have a chance create their own identity & club.
Hopefully what we are doing keep everyone interested, & may creat the vibrant trade market we once had.
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